September 25, 2009

Difference Between Vory and Mafiya; Mafia Wars Strategy Guide

As you progress through the chapters in Moscow, you have to make a choice between siding with the Vory or the Mafiya. It appears that you can freely choose whichever side you want each Episode; you can side with the Vory in Episode 1 and then side with the Mafiya in Episode 2. Here are the known differences between the two tiers, broken down by Episode:


Episode 1, Baklany:

In chapter 2, there is one job difference between each side:

The top job, Collect the Ransom, is Vory only, while the Collect the Hit Payoff job is Mafiya only. Here are the two different items possible from this job:

The Cherepakha Compact is Vory Only.

And the Molotok Pistol is Mafiya Only.

As you can see, the only difference in Episode 1 in choosing a side is if you want access to a bad vehicle or weapon. The Mafiya pathway costs more money (you need 6 Takis which are 1,000,000 Rubles) while in the Vory pathway you only need 3 Taksis (you need 6 Mototsyki which are only 500,000 Rubles a piece). On the other hand, The Mafiya pathway is more efficient (1.71 xp per energy vs 1.68 xp per energy). It really makes no difference.

Update: This is the job mastery reward for episode one for both Vory and Mafiya, so really for the first tier there is no significant difference between job paths.

And yes, another combat item... /yawn.

Episode 2, Boets:

There are more significant differences between the path you choose at this stage, although it does not seem to make too much of a difference yet:

Differences in Jobs (I did not include chapter 3 since there is no difference between Mafiya or Vory):

Vory Job Tier

Mafiya Job Tier

Differences in Loot:

Vory Only Loot

Mafiya Only Loot

Well, as you can see, not too much of a difference. The vehicle is a little bit better than the weapon, but if you have a fleet of Track Loaders / Hu-9's / Armored State cars, it does not matter.

There are different jobs between each tier that you can see in the pictures above. One thing to note is that the differences in payment between jobs is potentially due to differences in bagmen between characters. One main difference is that Vory is required to use Concealable Cameras to work through Episode 2 does not have them required.

For the first two episodes, the long and short of it is that it really does not matter. I am assuming they will diversify more as more episodes are released.

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58 comments:

  1. Those items (the gun and the car) are tradeable?

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  2. There seems to be some issues with Moscow. I achieved Level 3 mastery on all the jobs in the first episode Baklany, but I never received any confirmation or reward for completing the episode. I have also completed all Level 1 jobs for the second episode Boets, and again never received confirmation for completing the Level 1 jobs. At the moment I cannot proceed to the Level 2 jobs even though everything prior is complete.
    This kind of sucks...

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  3. I am curious if in the later episodes you will need to stay with the choice of sides you made because you must use the items you received for completing the jobs to complete the higher level jobs.

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  4. It seems you are free to choose different sides between episodes. As far as I can tell there is not that much of a difference between which side you choose. I completed the first episode by choosing the side of Vory and completed Level 1 of the second episode as Mafiya. I posted the previous comment about having problems completing the levels. I cannot confirm this because everything seems to be messed up, but I believe the only difference is the job mastery rewards, as well as a couple job specific items.

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  5. It appears both paths require Karpov photos to complete episode 2. However can you only get them from the Vory path? What do you do if you're on the Mafiya path?

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  6. The Mafiya path gets them from killing the investigative reporter - no camera needed!

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  7. vory loots cars only, mafiya weapons only?

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  8. Episode 1 as Mafiya gives you the Barsuk SUV as well.

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  9. So the loots are tradeable right?

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  10. I just noticed that I was now only worth 10% as a bagman. I used to be worth 11%, which I think is the maximum. That has nothing to do with this thread, but it is a change.

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  11. i'm sad i chose vory cuz the pistol looks far better

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  12. Moscow is bad......
    I mean, after all the hype, they are forcing people to master each job in order to be able to complete the next ones.......???
    It kinda feels horribly absurd.......
    I have always believed in trying all different jobs at once instead of doing the same job again and again till it is mastered......
    Moscow is really really horrible.......
    I hate it!!!
    :-(

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  13. Spent ALL day playing and with the exception of the tiger loot, I feel ripped off big time. Terrible job ratios, terrible items, and everything is ridiculously expensive. The only decent thing about Moscow (in my opinion) is the temporary tattoo boost. Also, I'm upset that you CANNOT go past Level 1 of Episode 2, and when you do finally complete that level, you don't get a new title! All that work and now I get to wait some more...wonderful.

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  14. Thanks for all the info. Because of this page,I'm thinking that I'm going to choose to go the Mafiya route,then I'll get back to you.Wish me luck.

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  15. these people complaining such as Nihal and anonymous above...

    it s FREE game, dont complain as it hasnt cost you anything - if you have spent REAL money on gf points to buy weapons/amour/vehicles or energy packs to be able to do more jobs then more fool you...

    Moscow has been out 2 days and already people are complaining - Zynga have only brought out 2 Job tier Episodes so far, wait to see what comes next?!!

    Personally i have chosen Vory so far, however it seems you can change each chapter of each episode so stop whinging!

    If you hate it then dont f*cking play it, its a FREE game, simple!

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  16. I have to agree...Zynga have done the best to satisfy everyone, IT'S FREE....stop moaning...you can't please all of the people all of the time!!!!

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  17. While it may be a free game, Zynga makes a ton of money for it. So those of you that don't spend real cash, shut the hell up about the people complaining who actually do spend cash.

    If it wasn't for them spending cash, this game would not exist.

    You free players that like this game should thank the paying players every chance you get. One day Zynga may just decide to make it pay to play only, because as this new business model become more widespread, it may dilute the industry so much that it no longer works.

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  18. First of all, everyone plays for free, you choose to pay for extra boosts and to move on quicker through the game. Don't feel special because you chose to spend some cash on it. I have taken advantage of this guide to get a great level 500 character in only a few weeks. I can still level up about 4 times a day and have over 500 defense and 3k energy. Moscow is geared to be harder and not to allow someone who has power leveled through everything else to blow through it in an hour or two. It is forcing players to take a little time to progress due to poor energy/exp ratios and high cash costs. There are going to be several cities coming in the next months and I expect them all to have a variety of individual challenges. Get used to it, you are going to have to vary your play style to make it through each city. I wouldn't be surprised if we see one soon that has very low cash payouts on jobs and high cost for the items so that fighting and winning cash is much more important, they might go so far as to not allow or to limit banking so that you can't fully protect yourself.

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  19. one question? wats the script u use to get the exp/energy ratio?

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  20. anonymous above who has got to around level 500 in a just a few weeks with 500 defence and 3000 energy - ur obviously one of the mugs who spends proper money on gf points...so no wonder u can get that level and energy in such short time - anyone could if they spent money on it...

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  21. to the previous commenter (@7:19) -- i am not the person you are referring to, but i do have to respond that it is quite possible to acheive a high-level well-defended character in a relatively short amount of time by properly playing an energy character without spending a single cent of real money. if you think otherwise, go read some guides on how to do this -- they are all over the internet.

    to the commenter before that (@12:21) -- i'm not the article poster, but i know that the script that gives you the energy ratios. to use it you have to use firefox and install a plugin called greasemonkey. greasemonkey is itself a platform, and you have to install a script for greasemonkey called mafia wars autoplayer. this script, in addition to giving energy ratios, adds a lot of other information all over the screen (like how much exp more you need to level, property cost ratios, extra buttons on player screens, etc...), and as its name implies, it lets you automate certain processes. I don't use it for the automation, because why would you want the game to play itself for you? But I do use it for being able to see all the extra info without calculating it myself every time.

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  22. For me it good that items are quite expensive in russia to balance the Jobs .. Somehow Moguls have an advantage atlast.. but i think it will be temporary advamtage since money was never been problem in mafia wars after earning al bussineses.. -Buracho

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  23. i luv this game n do spend money by my choice. im over 500 level with a real strong character. i even belong to a tagged group. its not just the game but ur able to meet people from all over the world. so what about moscow. its a challenge n i mastered each level already.
    u dont want to spend cash then dont but dont whine like a bitch. if this was golf or sumthing u would be spending cash. but if ur not then shut the hell up. would they let u golf 4 free. hell no keep up the good work guys n screw them whinners

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  24. is RU-7 .45 pistol one of the new loot in russia?, i didn't see anyone list it. it makes me wonder....

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  25. Moscow was rushed thanks to complainers, and after its realease, these people complains that it sucks...... Real idiots with nothing better to do...

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  26. anonymous @ 9.35pm - i do not spend cash and am not the one whining like a bitch - its the complainers that are whining dickhead...

    i dont play golf either, but you spend ur hard earned money on buying gf points to get more energy to get to a higher level - god anyone could do that if they spent real money on it like you do! - congratulate yourself for being one of the MUGS that buy their way into everything! God Zynga loves people like you!

    i'd rather spend my money on girls and myself, not a FREE game!

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  27. An ibnteresting thing about level two .. in pictures you have FINALE in the picture... but i have chapter three and no mention of KArpov (i am still at bronze level though)

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  28. I editted out chapter 3 because there are no differences between the tiers there (at least for episode 1 and 2). I'm guessing that each episode will offer a more distinct difference between the 2 groups.

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  29. Seems that there's a chapter 3 on the Vory side now; one of the jobs, "Re-route an equipment shipment" drops PNVs, an armor with 21 attack and 31 defense, which is actually better defense than the Guerrilla Squads.

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  30. so wats the best way to go if ur an everyday player and u jus play it free? i dnt spend money n think im doin decent but im still tryin to figure out the side choosin part looks like it dnt matter much then huh?

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  31. well. having played mafia wars NY and cuba, moscow is great. its not boring since its harder. bth of course they wont make it easier. if they did all people would just aiim for moscow and disregard the earlier cities.

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  32. i mastered level 3 of the 1st episode and earned the title Matyoryj Baklan. A warning came out: "Now your choices are permanent". Most likely this means no more possibility of swapping vory/mafiya. well i m in Mafiya (by instict)lol. good luck!

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  33. i'll go for vory... cuz it's always mafia mafia mafia...

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  34. I finished the first chapter of episode 1 and went into chapter 2 to do the jobs and got stuck in vory. I am now finished with chapter 3 of episode 1 which unlocked episode 2 Boets, but the Mafiya tabs are locked which is frustrating because my mafia family has chosen Mafiya and I have been under the impression we can change sides all thru the earlier chapters. if anyone has any info as to how and if I will be able to switch back to Mafiya will you please post it. thank you

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  35. if you spend real cash your a fool, if you wanna spend money on games, buy a real games console, like an xbox 360, i use mafia wars to pass time between battle rounds on halo 3, i would never dream of spending money on mafiawars, however i buy content points o my 360, forr upgrades to halo. dont spend extra money on a game thats free, its like chavs doing up a p reg clio with thousands of pounds worth of kit, its just not logical

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  36. I don't spend any money on Mafia Wars because I don't think the parts you can buy get me any game-play value that isn't already there for free.

    However, I really don't understand all these people saying it doens't make sense or is illogical to spend money on a game whose core is free. If the part that costs money makes it more fun for you, then it is 100% logical. While not worth it for me, I can definitely see why it might be worth it for someone who likes Mafia Wars more than I do.

    By analogy, if you get a laptop as a gift, is it illogical to spend money on it a few weeks later to upgrade its memory just because the computer itself was free to begin with?

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  37. Playing Mafia Wars isn't free. You connect to the internet to play, and your internet isn't free. You use a computer to connect to the internet, and your computer isn't free. You plug your computer, and your electricity isn't free. At some point, you pay to play Mafia Wars.

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  38. It amazes me that this is even an argument. If you pay to play fine, more power to you. But the non-paying players don't owe you anything. Zynga makes most of their money from the sponsors and the offers on the Godfather page. The new cities that come out are going to be different challenges that will give different style players advantages in certain cities. Using a slight variation of this guide I was able to get a character over level 600 w/ a total attack over 35k and a defense over 32k. I have 23 days of play on this character. I spent $0 buying extra godfather points to make it work. I have finished all 3 cities and simply spend my energy helping my mafia getting loot for combat and waiting for the next release for Moscow. Being able to get to a higher level as fast as possible allows you to actually give your character better stats. A friend of mine has been playing a more balanced style for months and is only level 200 and I have more attack, defense, energy, stamina, and better loot.

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  39. lol, i laugh at people that pay money to be good in a video game. seriously freakin nerdy and pathetic that you need to be good in a facebook game to think your a success at something

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  40. in chapter 1 i chose Mafiya but chapter 2 i chose Vory then finished chapter 2 but can not unlock chapter 3. Suck! How to continue, anyone know how to do , plzzzz!

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  41. I seem to have a similar problem. Chapter 3 won't start for me...

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  42. I've heard major issues with Moscow freezing up and not being able to move forward. I'm done w/ NY and Cuba but am going to do jobs in Cuba and build up tracks, GS, etc until it is fixed. Can always collect money from Moscow until it is fixed. I heard you need lots of it.

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  43. Oh boy do you need lots of money in Moscow. R$53,100,000.00 to do the job Episode 4
    Avtoritet Chapter 2 choice for Vory or Mafiya, just for level 1. Some jobs require more items for each of the levels. If y0u're not done in Cuba, trust me, finish Cuba jobs, fight in Moscow for money. You'll need it when you get there. I started with over R$30,000,000 and I am constantly waiting on cash.

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  44. Hi I have completed the bronze star on level 1 of Baklany but the status bars have not cleared. How do they clear so I can start the silver star level?

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  45. add me!!!!!!!!!
    need member urgent!!!!

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  46. Yeah yeah...
    russia is free of all the corruption....
    tear down that wall...

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  47. I am locked out at the end of Boets as well.........does anyone know what to do?

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  48. hi im just wondering why i cant "Take down Party Boss Karpov" forepisode 2 anymore. Ive only just completed 3 levels of mastery and now the job doesnt seem to be open.

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  49. Well, I've a huge problem with the 1 Moscow episode. I've mastered all the jobs in chapter 1 for 2 level, but the next chapter just can be unlocked. Fortunately, this happened after I got access to 2 episode, but it's really annoyong-I want the barsuk scv. Has anyone ever had the same problem?

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  50. I read that there is a bug in Moscow episodes in moving to the next chapter, but when it will be fixed-no idea

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  51. I have similar problem. I've mastered all the job in episode 2 till the finale chapter, but Confront Gang Leader Dmitri Leonov just can't be unlocked. Yes, this is really annoying... *blergh*

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  52. helo guys...in episode 1 i lvl 1 mastered till finale at mosco then unlock in episode 2 unlock....why i can't mastered all 3 tiers..thats why i can't lvl up now and dun get bounus items..i have no idea....any1 have this problem...plz help me...im cuba more than half way...while waiting.. even i have energy i can't lvl up...thats suk...please help me ( victawin@hotmail.com ) this is my email...please response any1

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  53. the properties option is not showing on my bar in mafia wars my n

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  54. chapter 2 level six pakhan wont open for me anyone else have that happening?

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  55. Wonder why Moscow sucks? Why it's difficult? Why it freezes up? Ever been there? Great bit of irony built into the game...

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  56. VORY ALL WAY BABY O' YER

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