March 30, 2010

Robbing Mastery Requirements and rewards

Along with the addition of robbing, there is now a mastery system that allows players to "level up" as they complete more successful robberies.

There are 10 total levels, and each level confers a new title to the player along with a "reward" of some sort. Here is what is known so

Level: Title earned for mastering level, # of heists needed, bonus earned for making it to the next level


[For finish level 1 and reaching] Level 2: Burglar, 10 heists, 6% bonus XP for robbing

Level 3: Master Burglar, 25 heists (more heists, the 10 from the previous level do not count), 7% bonus XP for robbing

Level 4: Apprentice Robber, 100 heists, 8% bonus XP for robbing

Level 5: Robber, 500 heists, 9% bonus XP for robbing

Level 6: Master Robber, 1000 heists, 10% bonus XP for robbing

Level 7: Apprentice Thief, 2500 heists, 12% bonus XP for robbing

Level 8: Thief, 5000 heists, 15% XP for robbing

Level 9: Master Thief, ??? (guessing 10,000) heists, guessing the bonus will be ~20% XP bonus

Level 10: Grand Master Thief, ??? (guessing 20,000) heists - this is the title for level 10 - I am not sure yet if this title will be granted to the player simply for reaching level 10 or if the player has to max out level 10 mastery first. I'm guessing the reward will be ~25% XP bonus, along with an item of some sort. It has been stated that we will receive an item reward, just not sure what it is yet. It will be awhile simply due to the large number of heists needed to get this high, but perhaps we will find out early if someone exploits!

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Strategy:

Note that quality of type of heist does not matter for leveling up. The only thing that is important is winning. You do not get bonus mastery % for robbing high-stamina cost targets (Casinos etc). As a result, you want to focus on robbing low stamina cost targets.

If your board looks like this:

Flophouse x2 (costs 2 stamina to rob)
Pawn Shop x3 (costs 3 stamina to rob)
Restaurant x2 (costs 7 stamina to rob)
Mega Casino x2 (costs 20 stamina to rob)

..by robbing (successfully) the 2 flophouses, you will add 2 successful heists to your total, while only spending 4 stamina (10 times more efficient than robbing casinos).

As a result, I recommend never robbing casinos (unless you are trying to collect cash or XP). It's simply a lot faster to level up your robbing mastery by robbing everything but the most expensive targets (casinos, uptown hotels, and even office parks) and getting new, cheaper targets.

Think about it this way - you can leave 4 properties unrobbed each time and for only a 4 stamina cost, however, simply by robbing a Casino over a Flophouse, you have spent 18 more stamina!

In short, rob the cheapest properties and then refresh your property page.


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In other news, I'm not sure if we will see an Easter event or not. It's in between being a Christian holiday only and being secularized, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is not an event associated with it. Holiday events didn't become the "norm" until the 4th of July event, so there's no way to know for sure since we didn't see what they did last year.

Also there's a few new free gift items, so if you're into collecting weak loot, it's your lucky day!

You can also get a new 51 attack, 30 defense weapon (Pocket Rockets) by leveling up in Zynga Poker. The reward system is buggy as usual, can't help you there if you didn't get it! The only tip I have for you is to go into your achievements page in Mafia Wars after you have earned your levels.
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70 comments:

  1. There are other considerations with robbing strategy..

    1) If you rob the little properties and choose new targets you are never getting the XP and loot reward for completing grids

    2) The little properties are harder to win on the medium and hard levels. It makes no sense but lose many more times robbing restaurants than robbing casinos

    3) Also, has anyone figured out the diamonds? When may they drop? If they only drop on mastering grids then that is another BIG consideration.

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  2. I was going to say the same thing about completing grids. According to Mafia Wars Wiki, you get an XP bonus for clearing the grid PLUS a random loot drop. The Diamonds are on the loot table for clearing grids (they are rare drops) so if you never clear an entire grid, you will never complete the Diamond collection. I just cleared my first grid and got a car that bumped one of my lowest vehicles off my fight list, so if the rest of the loot is an upgrade to what you can buy in the stores or loot in the jobs, it is worth it to take on the big targets. I've taken down hotels with 250 mafia with a mafia of only 60, so having a small mafia is no excuse not to take on the big guys especially if you have good gear.

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  3. I have been using a different strategy. My character is weak, but I am still averaging between a 5-6 out of 9 success rate. I have just over 200 stamina points and similar for fighting.

    I ALWAYS finish the grids (although I have yet to see a diamond, so would be interested to see where these are dropping) and depending on my success rate I get an xp bonus and loot item.

    The bonus xp depends on how successful you have been on the grid. The best I have done is an 8-1 and I think I got 80xp for that one.

    Anyway, I have been a total geek and keeping track of how much experience I am gathering (including bonuses) per stamina point.

    At the moment (bearing in mind I am a weak fighting character) I am averaging about 2.50 per stamina point. Although a couple of times it has sneaked over three, so that 2.50 may be a bit conservative.

    When you look at the best ratio you can get for doing jobs is the NY job in the boss tier that gives you 2.11 i reckon robbing is worthwhile and a better ratio than using your stamina for fighting, especially if you are a weak fighter like me.

    The point is, to get up to that ratio you have to clear the whole board each time to get the bonus.

    Anyway, just my thoughts to throw into the pot.

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  4. for being a fan of mafia wars i now get double mastery ex 4 mastery and for a vieng a fan +4 mastery so 8 % mastery

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  5. I've seen people having an "Easter Egg Bomb" in their loot. Sorry, didn't think to take a screenshot. So some sort of Easter event or reward has been done in the past. Let's cross our fingers they do it again :P St. Valentine's and St. Patrick's days are Saint's days--not exactly secular either. Christmas is a religious holiday too, they did some stuff during that :)

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  6. The bank and the hospital are different now--instead of a separate page they're a flash pop up window.

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  7. I'd take a Resurrected Bloody Zombie Jesus as a mastery reward item! :P

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  8. It's been my lucky day I guess. Only got 150 stamina and got a diamond for clearing the grid today and after I levelled up and new stamina I got another one. Only 5 to go.

    2 times in a row 9-0 :-)

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  9. Did you get the diamonds on the times you cleared the grid 9-0? As I have not done that yet, so may explain it?

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  10. I got a Diamond for a 7-2 clear.

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  11. I got maybe 3 new robbery items (not diamonds) in the span of using 200 stamina. Maybe the loot drop rate got upped. I had only gotten two items in all of my previous robbing (maybe 1000 stamina?).

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  12. How long will a robbing grid stay active?

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  13. So far, I have gotten 2 diamonds and neither one came from clearing a grid.

    As for any offering any Easter loot or having an event, I have something called an Easter Egg Bomb. It is a weapon with 28 Attack and 13 Defense. It was limited edition loot and not giftable.

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  14. For me, the 50 xp is not nearly as important as just getting successful robberies. Just think, if we have to rob some 30,000 times + to get to level 10, if you are spending 20 stamina robbing a casino for a chance to get 1 successful completion.. it just doesn't feasible to finish any time this century.

    At any rate, the easter egg bomb was from about a year ago.. back when you could buy a special item for every 2 mafia members. it was one of the first of these types of pieces. Not many people have them now, but at the time it was one of the best offensive weapons in the game! It was not part of an event.

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  15. It seems like it should be possible to get unlimited levels off of robbing. Beyond a certain point (level 500?) the people who you are robbing from don't change. In particular the attack skill needed to get a good ratio of wins is independent of your level. With a high success rate, you average 3 or more xp per stamina. Therefore when you reach a high enough level, the amount of stat points you've spent on attack still still leaves you enough points stamina to gain a full level from each levelup.

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  16. Just a heads up - my chop shop just turned into a "Unicorn Castle" and all of the vehicles are some variation of unicorn. I believe the stats are the same as the original vehicles. In order from left to right, the different unicorns are Warcorn, Icecorn, Bloodicorn, Aquacorn, Zombiecorn, Zebracorn, Flamicorn, Pegacorn, Robocorn and Rainbowcorn.

    Each of the components also have new names and pictures as well - car parts are magic potions, I think Thai car parts are fairy wings, Solar panels are rainbows, Russian car parts are pixie dust, Bulletproof glass is a shooting star and Cuban car parts are angel feathers. I am not absolutely sure on the regional car parts because I don't remember which car was where. The items are all changed in the inventory as well. The only component for upgrading I have is now a magic wall. Not sure which it was. Sorry I don't have any pics for you.

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  17. Also, all of my existing versions of those vehicles have been changed to unicorns. Not sure if there was ever any info about this or if it is a permanent change.

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  18. Chop Shop == Unicorn Castle because of April Fools???

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  19. haha! I was wondering what int he heck the unicorn castle was

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  20. Ok, probably my last post on this. Because my chop shop is totally upgraded, I don't have any spare parts, but my wife does. All of the parts have been changed as well. Blocks are starstone, power tools are drawbridges, car lifts are dream corners, torches are pretty towers and containers are magic walls.

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  21. I actually think the unicorns look pretty cool and hope they let us keep at least 1 of each variety we have, joke or not.

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  22. Generic guy, do you have any extra unicorn castle pieces? ;-)

    I wish my chopshop was fully upgraded :-(

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  23. WTF happened to all my rackets! I don't want stinking properties! This is rude! I want my daily pile of hollow points and Mr. Hot Sauces!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  24. April Fools!
    For a limited time, the Fairy Godmother has transformed the Chop Shop into the Unicorn Castle. Enjoy this castle filled with peace and harmony before time runs out!

    @MaryMc, I lost my rackets too! not so sad (stockpiled thousands of truck drivers) for losing them but the sad thing was getting only half of the points invested in influence...
    Guess now I know how all older players felt when stamina cost dropped from 2 to 1... =/

    Thanks zynga for the amazing help on this...

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  25. Rackets --> properties. They gave me 55 skill points back... but my influence was at 156... sucks. Oh well, at least they finally standardized the game.

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  26. this unicorn think is great, nice looks on the unicorn. two thumbs up zynga. love it. hope we can keep some and not all off them go back to cars...

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  27. fuk this unicorn thing this is mafia wars //mafia and wars what the fu** woould unicorns be doin tehre 50 thumbs down zynga u offically girlified the game if we wanted unicorns wed play ur other games like pet shit and all that crap screw this!:@

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  28. I can't get into the poker game to get my pocket rockets... keep getting "page not found" errors, even when trying different browsers on Macs and PCs, and when trying from Zynga's home page. I could really use the rockets for robbing... :(

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  29. is the unicorns permanent?

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  30. @Anonymous ... I hope it's a special April Fool item !!

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  31. you are right mate! more tanks for mafia wars :D

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  32. My rackets are also gone and I got all of the 245 skill points I had put into influence back. Can't complain about that.

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  33. I just successfully robbed a Unicorn Castle - you get a magic potion. Dunno if it's any good, or just another car part in disguise.

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  34. The unicorns are hilarious. Best joke ever.

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  35. The even funnier thing is, some people took this seriously, like Anonymous, 6:57 AM and a few of my clanmates. b(",)b

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  36. do we know if we caan keep the unicorns? cause i saw that all me chopshop cars have been changed to unicorns, and i am assuming they will change them all back.
    but i want them! theyre so lame und farmville-like, and girly and everything. i think theyre hilarious, i dont want them to go away! i want to keep them and have my chop shop back later, cause that jokell wear of pretty soon.

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  37. meh. just realized unicornstuff is april fools. too bad. i wouldve love to keep shit.

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  38. Chop Shop and all of it's stuff just changed to a Unicorn Castle, Magic Potions instead of Car Parts, etc I'm thinking it's an April 1st deal ;)

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  39. To mafia wars guide.

    Yes, I can see your point, it does indeed make sense. But on the other hand, if you want to keep levelling then it is possible to do it my way and still keep a levelling character going without adding anything to energy, i.e. by adding stats to attack and stamina. SO far this is working, and as I add more on to my attack stats my ratio is going up. The other thing to consider is that you wont get the diamond collection unless you complete the board, as that is the only time they drop.

    I can see what you mean about the robbing length of time, as it will take me some time to get up to the top levels, but I am alrready half way through level six even with my poor attack stats.

    The other thing to consider is that having quality loot items means that I have more chance of being successful robbing the larger properties, such as the casinos.

    So maybe there is some mileage in different strategies for different types of character?

    Anyway, as per usual excellent advice, thanks!

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  40. To bring the discussion back.... to clear a grid or not to. I got the sancy diamond when I cleared the grid so if the diamonds drop from doing that.... you bet your ass I'm going to spend the points to clear it. I traded my diamond for a shoe and my shoe for 300 viks so that clear earned me 300 viks. Stuff that in your stamina saving pipe and smoke it.

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  41. when some one robs you, does it affect the properties?

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  42. Yes, they smoke and you have to collect the money from them before the timer runs out or you lose it. @ anon 2:26 this is

    -Dave/Anon @ 2:23

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  43. thanks, because my mega casino is level - 1300

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  44. Your Current Level: 9, "Master Thief"
    # of Robberies completed: 16803
    # of Robberies needed for the next level: 9954
    Current Mastery Bonus: +20% experience from Robbing
    Next level Mastery Bonus: +25% experience from Robbing

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  45. Mafia Wars Man, can you please find out if vaulting the Lotto Collection increases your chances of loot drops through robbery? Thank you!

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  46. I had a couple questions.
    1. At what level do the diamonds drop from robbing? I'm level 4 and I have yet to get one.

    2. I've leveled up 4 times in Zynga Poker and I have yet to get Pocket Rockets. Just wondering how long after you level up that you get it.

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  47. @last anon:

    1. Diamonds start dropping at mastery level 5. They are extremely rare. I've had 2 drop so far, both on grid completions. (I traded a large amount of loot to get the other 7 diamonds, so I vaulted that collection -- hopefully it will pay itself back eventually when the diamonds start falling 20% faster...)

    2. Pocket Rockets are supposed to drop after leveling up 3 times, but you have to be at least level 6 to get them. So if you started out at less than level 3, you have to get all the way to 6. If you started at level 3 or more, you just have to level 3 times.

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  48. Robbing is so random it sucks.
    A member posted he robbed a casino on the grid that was hard and won 122mafia to 500 (16,000 to 14,000). Then next grid came up with the same casino same person and he lost 13,000 to 40,000. So mafia size and eqipment mean nothing when robbing.

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  49. where do I find the information such as Anon @ APRIL 1, 2010 8:31 PM posted it?

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  50. to myself above: click on the progress bar on the robbing page...

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  51. This guide is great but wrong in its assessment of how to exploit robbing.
    "YOUR CURRENT LEVEL: 7, "APPRENTICE THIEF"
    # of Robberies completed: 8424
    # of Robberies needed for the next level: 699
    Current Mastery Bonus: +12% experience from Robbing
    Next level Mastery Bonus: +15% experience from Robbing"

    OK its not taken me long and ive tried a few things out.

    1-do finish the whole grid you will benefit in the long run with loot drops, exp bonus and not to forget its much faster!Note the 1:1 ratio from losing the small hard job is far out weighted by the grid bonus.

    2- if you cant finish a grid with remaining stamina then go use it up fighting to be as efficient as possible.

    3- you can achieve 2.4-2.8 exp/stam return but loot and att scores will effect you win %. About 15% in Att 0 % Def, 40% Energy and 45% Stamina as a rough guide but if your are wanting to level faster then put more into stamina and attack and when you get to a good level start feeding defence.

    Diamond collection does help but levelling up to 5,6,7... 8 tonight has help much more ;-).
    BTW I started 2 new accounts this week, my first account beside my main one, and blasted through New York in both in 24 hrs taking advantage of Zynga levelling and exp 2 day bonus. Luckily robbing came in and allowed me to level even faster and now i have a att:300 def:50 En:735 Stam:1050 @ around level 320 in a few days. I can level at will without energy boost 95% of the time and only miss by 30-120 energy as a maximium.

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  54. Level 9 = about 16500
    Level 10 = about 26750

    http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6236/26797152.gif

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  55. So is the robbing dependent on both your items and your attack skill? Or just your items?

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  56. Both Attack skill and items, yes.

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  57. response to this post below: Your account has poker blocked. You need to go into Account/Privacy Settings/Applications and Websites/Blocked Applications. There you can unclick Zynga poker. From the link to get the ace in the sleeve you can now access poker. Once you do paste this link Please use the following link to claim your pocket rocket. This will start the 3 levels to get the pocket rocket. after the 3 levels or 4 paste the link again, and you will be rewarded the pocket rocket, continue to 6 to get the ace in the sleeve

    http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/track.php?next_controller=index&next_action=do_promotions&next_params={%22promo%22:%22poker_integrated_promo_3%22}
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    I can't get into the poker game to get my pocket rockets... keep getting "page not found" errors, even when trying different browsers on Macs and PCs, and when trying from Zynga's home page. I could really use the rockets for robbing... :(

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  58. YOUR CURRENT LEVEL: 9, "MASTER THIEF"
    # of Robberies completed: 23630
    # of Robberies needed for the next level: 3128
    Current Mastery Bonus: +20% experience from Robbing
    Next level Mastery Bonus: +25% experience from Robbing

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  59. Has anyone received diamonds from a mystery bag by having them in your wishlist? I've been trying and no luck.

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  60. YOUR CURRENT LEVEL: 10, "GRAND MASTER THIEF"
    Current Mastery Bonus: +25% experience from Robbing

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  61. when someone is robbing your property, is it safe to collect it?

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  62. My Robbery Level is 4. Still my "Successful Heists" shows 0 on other accounts. Why so?

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  63. My current lvl is 351. I'm at lvl 7 robbing and I have picked up 6 diamonds so far. I always complete the board but have only gone 9-0 8 times. I have a small family (133) so Im not a really strong player. My stamina sits at 416 right now. I have quit increasing it now because it seems like I will pick up the last diamond between lvl 8-10 by just doing exactly what I have been. If I had not cleared the board every time, I doubt I would have ever picked up any diamonds.

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  64. I am currently on the last Level(4) of episode 7 (Assassin.. Chapter 3 as of now. Its unreal how much Bhat you need to buy the Rifles, Crossbow, & Fatigues.

    Who's completed the finale that can tell me whats needed?

    I want to sell my Seux Machine Guns from Chapter 1 IF AND ONLY IF theyre NOT needed for the finale. I made the mistake of selling them after Episode 6 (Saboteur) thinking I didnt need them for Episode 7. Needless to say I had to fight for a couple of weeks to raise the Bhat to repurchase them all over again.

    So, what exactly is needed AFTER Chapter 3 going into the finale??

    Thx!!!

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  65. Can anyone tell me what the different colored bars (red, blue, green and yellow) mean when robbing properties? And, what does it mean when it says "damage in so many minutes" and what happens when the police line, do not cross sign is put up across the property?

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  66. Correction in level parameters:
    "Level 4: Apprentice Robber, 100 heists, 8% bonus XP for robbing"
    the above part should be:
    "Level 4: Apprentice Robber, 500 heists, 9% bonus XP for robbing"
    and Level 3 was 100 heists

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  67. how do you get the " police property banner do not cross" banner across ur properties and they can not be robbed?

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  68. Grand Master Thief gets you +25% experience from robbing and that title is granted,As soon as you reach level 10.

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  69. It's better to win at casino than be a robber https://casinority.com/how-to-win-at-the-casino-real-big/ but you have to study a lot to be a winner

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