April 27, 2010

Robbing Now Live in All Cities






As predicted (though much faster than I anticipated!), robbing is now available in all cities. More importantly, robbing is now available in Bangkok. Players can now rob properties in Bangkok for a more reliable source of extra $B or even for extra pirates:

Thanks Chuck for the pictures!

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Here are my thoughts:

It seems like that for the 3 stamina robbing the Cockfighting Pen, getting about 1600 $B is worth it for the stamina cost. The downside, however, is that you will lose quite a few robberies thanks to the recent change to the random number generator.

Also, it seems the more expensive businesses are pretty rare (or maybe not in for all servers?), and this is likely to be the case that many players are still not done Bangkok and have not yet purchased the more expensive businesses!

Spending 10 stamina to get 1 pirate or 1 drug shipment seems like a waste to me. I would rather rob chop shops and weapon shops for more parts to build cars and weapons with.

The real prize here seems to be the vast number of low cost robberies in Bangkok - this can be an easy way for players to stock up on wins and even diamonds if you are strong enough. I think, however, that the loot right now is better in New York.

I think robbing will get a lot more interesting when the next city comes out. Money will be much more important then and it will be meaningful to hit even the small properties.

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41 comments:

  1. still no diamonds here. Did get a 9-0 today though

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  2. Robbing chop shop/depot gets you parts ? I haven't noticed this.

    I'm not concerned with baht so for me, robbing in Moscow is ideal as I'm now a Level 7 Apprentice Thief and continually working my way up. Properties range from 1-6 stamina use, I've cleared many boards using 30 or less stamina, my best being 15 !!

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  3. i got a diamond in bangkok.. no worries :)
    and noticed that my exp/stamina ratio is above 4, while in new york was a little above 3. That's cool, i can level up continuously for 100-150 lvls I think

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  4. The XP payout is phenomenal! I leveled up from 190 to 225 in one sitting by robbing in cuba, which also netted me two diamonds and untold number of PCs. I think if you are a higher level account, the best XP ratio is probably in Moscow, since it has so many low stamina robbing targets. You can spend as little as 18 stamina and get way over 100 XP if you clear the board 9-0. I don't predict this will last long with such high payout.

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  5. EVERYBODY, you probably also noticed this but there is just the 3 small properties in Russia, which, if you have half decent items and stamina, makes it a real XP mine with a ratio of around 4 or more XP per 1 stamina. Already upped more than 10 levels at level 42... :D

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  6. I've noticed that when I rob someone in NY it says easy, then after I rob them it changes to either medium or hard! Not sure if that's happening to anybody else. Like I'm loosing the rob's that say easy, but they turn out to b either medium or hard.

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  7. Hey!
    New Top Mafia lives again!
    I hope it will stay!

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  8. new top mafia is live

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  9. Time to throw out the guide. The new Top Mafia system totally nerfs most energy strategies. All the previous Top Mafia bonuses are gone. No more extra 11% for having a top mastermind or wheelman and no 50% more XP on zero cost jobs for being in those positions.

    I am glad I decided to convert to a stamina strategy once I got high enough level.

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  10. @ Robert...it works both ways. Sometimes hard properties will switch to medium/easy...sometimes the other way around. I can't quite figure it out.

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  11. With robbing going live in all cities and the new top mafia, has anyone been doing any jobs?

    I'm working on Level 4 mastery on Episode 4 in Bangkok. This morning "Buy Some Chemicals on the Black Market" cost 120 energy to do and now it costs 136. "Make Contact With The United Wa State Army" used to cost 92 energy and now costs 104.

    Looking ahead to Episode 5A and 5B, the energy costs seem to gone up there for me as well.

    Is anyone else seeing this?

    FYI I'm a Mogul. Not sure if that even still exists anymore.

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  12. Bad news: Top Mafia changes are back, but apparently along with them everyone is losing their old top mafia bonuses and they're nerfing the Settle-a-Beef job down to 1.6 Eng/XP ratio.

    Power leveling with energy may soon be a thing of the past.

    Fighting and Robbing look to offer the best ratio from here on out.

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  13. @ Huh

    You may have been "upgraded" to the new Top Mafia, so all your top mafia bonuses will be gone, try to fix this first.

    On another note, have animals stopped dropping?

    I have 1 account with new top mafia, but other 2 are still as before.

    Max

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  14. yeah i have new top mafia and all of my bonuses are gone

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  15. I spent 1600 levels developing an energy based player. Although I have begun to devote more skill points to attack and stamina in the last month or so, I'm still primarily an energy based player. If these changes hold, I'm out. They keep effing the game up to the point where long term planning is no longer possible.

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  16. They probably took out the bonuses in order to prevent players from mastering cities in a day.

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  17. I still have old Top Mafia. Yippee for now, as it seems like I'll get to revel in it a bit longer.

    A funny thing, though, is the lack of low-leveled players around, which gets accentuated when you need them for the Street Crew. I almost feel like making a third account just for that, but I'm not THAT desperate.

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  18. How does one get new top mafia.....thanks for the awesome work in this write up...

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  19. How do you get it? You hope and/or pray (if you do pray) that Zynga releases it in your version, as you always do with MW content. For example:

    My "older" version: Got Weapon Depot gift items first.
    My "newer" version: Got new Top Mafia first.

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  20. I'm just 560 but I feel the same as the 1600 level anonymous. My energy-based character is now nearly useless and I'm not going to start again from scratch knowing that they may change it again.

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  21. i reached level 900 today and now my mafia are throwing a party or "milestone levels"? anyone else seen this? there are messages on my wall from some members and you get a 20 (no, really) exp bonus...? there are several messages but you can only collect one per day. gonna check tomorrow and see if another works then.

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  22. New top mafia here too, real pita was counting big time on top wheelman and Mastermind bonuses...
    What pisses me off is that only 506 of my 4000 Mafia are available to promote. I had people in mind for when the time came, but I can't promote them as they are not on the list.
    Fucking morons, always screwing things up.
    Thumbs down on this one, big time.
    Good thing I have a lot of stamina, will go experiment on the new cities for robbing at least that part seems to be going in the right direction!

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  23. pls tell us more about the top mafia thingy.. the whole system has just been revamped to be extra hard to level up. I think they (zynga) are luring us to purchase more Godfather points.. and asking us to do their marketing/ recruiting for them -- the fact that we are supposed to message our MIA friends. lol

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  24. The new Top Mafia thing might be a plus or minus from where you are standing. If you have already taken advantage of an energy strategy and have 501 of all Top Loot, it is definitely a plus. You are set for the time being. If you were not there yet, you are at a comparative disadvantage.

    It sucks to be you.

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  25. I don't like the top mafia change at all. More likely than not, I will quit. Too big of a change in the game.

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  26. I was just credited 2.4 million baht...Needless to say, I "baht" a lot of faction store goods.

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  27. New Top Mafia is suck :(

    All the job ratio is dropped (no more 11% mastermind)

    No Top Wheelman bonus (0 energy)

    And you have to message your MIA mafia ??? especially for the "Street Crew" which is restricted to "level 19 and under".
    If your mafia is under level 19....most likely they're no more playing MW anymore.

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  28. they did not nerf the settle a beef permanently job, that is the way it is without the bonuses, which will be greatly missed.

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  29. I wouldn't want to start playing this game right now. It would take upwards of a year of regular playing to get anywhere close to being competitive now.

    This is a lot of tweaking in a relatively small amount of time. I think they'll lose a lot of people over this.

    So who wants my stuff. :D

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  30. Ach, all the jobs give shit payout now. And to think I felt I had things covered with the new moscow robbing too..

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  31. They changed the energy cost and experience payout effectively making any energy characters obsolete. I think I'm done with the game. It pretty much took all the fun out of it for me, if I can't level and progress through things quickly. It also makes half this guide useless. If I was the author, I would be infuriated. That's a lot of work down the drain.

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  32. so does anybody know which job is the most efficient now?

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  33. The only efficient jobs are fighting and robbing. They're the only way you'll earn more than 2:1 per skill point invested, if I have my numbers correct. ONLY way.

    The only real thing to hope for is that Top Mafia actually MEANS something besides getting silly little bonuses or having something happen in Fight Club. Zynga might be able to alleviate some of this by several small bonuses based on rank (i.e., Crew gets +2% job exp/money and -2% En cost; Lieutenants get +4%/-4%; Captains get +6%/-6%), but given their economic viewpoint, I highly doubt they would pull off something like that. All about the GF Points, you know.

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  34. I had the new top mafia couple of hours ago along with the reduced xp/cost. Now it's gone and I reverted to the old system with the old xp/cost.

    Did that happen to anyone else?

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  35. I'm back to the old system this morning too... glad I didn't take the time to set up the new top mafia last night. From my mafia's comments to the posts here it sounds like a significant change in a different direction. Wish Zynga would give a little lead time on these things (like they have with animals) so we can be more ready.

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  36. For almost 2 days I had a robbing ratio in Bangkok of ~3.6-3.7 this morning it went back to ~2.6 and below, goddamn I was so happy 'couse with my mixed account I was able to serial level :( f**k u zynga!

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  37. Damn... they changed the stamina/xp ratios for robbing in the new cities :/ goodbye leveling

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  38. I see somebody else has beaten me to it. I wondered what was going on, and then did some tests. Yup, as with the posters above, the ratios as a lvl 10 robber have now gone down to just under 3, whereas before I was getting over 4. Ahh well, it was fun whilst it lasted. Back to levelling in NY robbing I guess, havent checked to see if they've nerfed that as well.

    What do you reckon, is this our punishment for making them go back on their new top mafia idea;)

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  39. Looks like robbing on Moscow took got a multiplier of 3 applied. Shame the can't be said for the xp payout.

    Cube got a 1.5 times multiplier from the looks of it and Bangkok got a 2 times multiplier applied. From the results of a couple of attempts it doesn't look like they changed the payout though, so the stamina / xp ratio just took a huge hit.

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  40. For XP, Bangkok and Moscow are best. For the value of the money.... Bangkok is best. For the return on stamina to xp.... New York is the WORST! The information on robbing smaller buildings that give worse xp/stamina ratio on this site is WRONG! I have 1200 stamina and I am robbing level 7 near 8. The only value in robbing small buildings is to boost your robbing mastery level early on. I wish people would update information after it changes.

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